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	<title>Comments on: Pike-Pine Must Learn To Survive Without A BMW Dealership</title>
	<link>http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/05/27/pike-pine-must-learn-to-survive-without-a-bmw-dealership/</link>
	<description>Smart Growth defined: Making the car an option, not a necessity.*</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: dorian gray</title>
		<link>http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/05/27/pike-pine-must-learn-to-survive-without-a-bmw-dealership/#comment-2394</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Pryde is in serious trouble with this site. They acquired most of the parcels but not enough. The parcels purchased resemble a tetris piece. One of the key parcels is an existing apartment which is quite old. Buying it and tearing it down will gain the ire of this blog and other but will be necessary to make it work. The existing bmw site has circulated the market twice in the last 9 months from 2 different brokers. The BMW is amongst the top 3 in the country in terms of sales however. Historically the P/P corridor was where the cars of the city were serviced and I believe the code still states it wants to retain the flavor of historic car fixing areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pryde is in serious trouble with this site. They acquired most of the parcels but not enough. The parcels purchased resemble a tetris piece. One of the key parcels is an existing apartment which is quite old. Buying it and tearing it down will gain the ire of this blog and other but will be necessary to make it work. The existing bmw site has circulated the market twice in the last 9 months from 2 different brokers. The BMW is amongst the top 3 in the country in terms of sales however. Historically the P/P corridor was where the cars of the city were serviced and I believe the code still states it wants to retain the flavor of historic car fixing areas.
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		<title>by: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/05/27/pike-pine-must-learn-to-survive-without-a-bmw-dealership/#comment-2340</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 22:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Mmm, I'm excited to look anywhere other than Lithia's BMW shops for my next BMW, although I've loved BMW Seattle - somehow I'll bet most of their products will be priced at MSRP with little room, if Lithia's going to pay off that construction loan plus their new mortgage :-).

Thanks for the photos of the project!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmm, I&#8217;m excited to look anywhere other than Lithia&#8217;s BMW shops for my next BMW, although I&#8217;ve loved BMW Seattle - somehow I&#8217;ll bet most of their products will be priced at MSRP with little room, if Lithia&#8217;s going to pay off that construction loan plus their new mortgage <img src='http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>Thanks for the photos of the project!
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		<title>by: Steve</title>
		<link>http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/05/27/pike-pine-must-learn-to-survive-without-a-bmw-dealership/#comment-2339</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 22:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Regarding offices:  It would be nice for the neighborhood to have office space there, but I wonder if there's demand.  It seems like a lot of the businesses in Pine/Pike now are low overhead and presumably not interested in newer, more expensive space.  Of course, this could be a result of only older space being available -- chicken and egg can be hard to distinguish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding offices:  It would be nice for the neighborhood to have office space there, but I wonder if there&#8217;s demand.  It seems like a lot of the businesses in Pine/Pike now are low overhead and presumably not interested in newer, more expensive space.  Of course, this could be a result of only older space being available &#8212; chicken and egg can be hard to distinguish.
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		<title>by: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/05/27/pike-pine-must-learn-to-survive-without-a-bmw-dealership/#comment-2333</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 19:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>That's not the heart of capitol hill. Either Broadway or 15th is. In fact, pike is the border with First Hill...

And those Benz/ferrari dealerships are on the border as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not the heart of capitol hill. Either Broadway or 15th is. In fact, pike is the border with First Hill&#8230;</p>
<p>And those Benz/ferrari dealerships are on the border as well.
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		<title>by: Brad</title>
		<link>http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/05/27/pike-pine-must-learn-to-survive-without-a-bmw-dealership/#comment-2332</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 15:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Regarding the use of the land when BMW exits:

To me, it makes a lot of sense to put office space in that area, instead of residential buildings.  When the bars are packed during the evening, the office buildings would be mostly empty.  When the bars are more slow-going during the 9-5 hours, the office space would be packed.  The bars would get flooded with happy hour traffic, everyone wins. The time slices are so mutually compatible that I could scream! 

Capitol hill could also use some more office jobs, in my opinion.  Most of us (yeah, that includes me) end up commuting downtown or (even worse) the east side.  Shouldn't we spread more 9-5 jobs over the rest of the city?

If residential units went up, I don't think you could avoid noise complaints.  Residents who need a sound sleep and party-goers don't mix well in a tight space. 

Unfortunately, I think that the money is in the residential units right now.  Sad...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the use of the land when BMW exits:</p>
<p>To me, it makes a lot of sense to put office space in that area, instead of residential buildings.  When the bars are packed during the evening, the office buildings would be mostly empty.  When the bars are more slow-going during the 9-5 hours, the office space would be packed.  The bars would get flooded with happy hour traffic, everyone wins. The time slices are so mutually compatible that I could scream! </p>
<p>Capitol hill could also use some more office jobs, in my opinion.  Most of us (yeah, that includes me) end up commuting downtown or (even worse) the east side.  Shouldn&#8217;t we spread more 9-5 jobs over the rest of the city?</p>
<p>If residential units went up, I don&#8217;t think you could avoid noise complaints.  Residents who need a sound sleep and party-goers don&#8217;t mix well in a tight space. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, I think that the money is in the residential units right now.  Sad&#8230;
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