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		<title>by: dave</title>
		<link>http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/06/05/fuck-gm/#comment-57535</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 15:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Jim (November 7th, 2008 at 3:20 pm) is obviously a deep thinker.

It's the infantile behavior of shallow egomaniacs (like Jim) that requires the Federal govt. to do it's job and protect the greater interests of society.  The only way to prevent selfish gluttons from driving everyone to a fully-baked planet is for government to do what the vast majority of us are not willing to do: conserve. Government MUST impose draconian taxes on gasoline: never let a gallon of gas cost less than six dollars.  That will force selfish pricks like Jim to leave their beasts in the garage, where they belong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim (November 7th, 2008 at 3:20 pm) is obviously a deep thinker.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the infantile behavior of shallow egomaniacs (like Jim) that requires the Federal govt. to do it&#8217;s job and protect the greater interests of society.  The only way to prevent selfish gluttons from driving everyone to a fully-baked planet is for government to do what the vast majority of us are not willing to do: conserve. Government MUST impose draconian taxes on gasoline: never let a gallon of gas cost less than six dollars.  That will force selfish pricks like Jim to leave their beasts in the garage, where they belong.
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		<title>by: Jim</title>
		<link>http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/06/05/fuck-gm/#comment-54816</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The author is obviously some chicken little limp wristed idiot who thinks humans have no right to exist on the planet.</description>
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		<title>by: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/06/05/fuck-gm/#comment-6674</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Clearly, it has come down to the consumer.  Yes, we have the power to make changes in the market place.  Right now, it is all about the consumer making all the right choices to invest in a greener planet.  We don't want SUV's that get 32 mpg; we want SUV's that get 100-200 mpg, hybrid and plugable.  Hydrogen liquid and gas would be the standard fuel.  Fuel cells would provide cars with electricity, recharge lithium ion batteries, and maybe a hydrogen 3 cyl internal combustion engine as a backup.  Wind power, solar voltaics, and methane gas from the earth (and landfills) would supplement our energy neees.  Nuclear is hazardous and the hidden expense:  highly radioactive waste for disposal; all this to boil water to create STEAM; extremely wasteful, dangerous and inefficient--dollar wise.  I heard that initally Toyota wasn't sure that Americans would buy their Prius because it did not roar while idling at a light or stop sign.  Americans do not need to worry.  They can use audio streams of a roaring engine (ipod) to get their adrenaline high.  Yes, consumers; it's doable; NOW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly, it has come down to the consumer.  Yes, we have the power to make changes in the market place.  Right now, it is all about the consumer making all the right choices to invest in a greener planet.  We don&#8217;t want SUV&#8217;s that get 32 mpg; we want SUV&#8217;s that get 100-200 mpg, hybrid and plugable.  Hydrogen liquid and gas would be the standard fuel.  Fuel cells would provide cars with electricity, recharge lithium ion batteries, and maybe a hydrogen 3 cyl internal combustion engine as a backup.  Wind power, solar voltaics, and methane gas from the earth (and landfills) would supplement our energy neees.  Nuclear is hazardous and the hidden expense:  highly radioactive waste for disposal; all this to boil water to create STEAM; extremely wasteful, dangerous and inefficient&#8211;dollar wise.  I heard that initally Toyota wasn&#8217;t sure that Americans would buy their Prius because it did not roar while idling at a light or stop sign.  Americans do not need to worry.  They can use audio streams of a roaring engine (ipod) to get their adrenaline high.  Yes, consumers; it&#8217;s doable; NOW!
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		<title>by: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/06/05/fuck-gm/#comment-4589</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ehh, Jim: it's &quot;fuck you, TOO&quot; and &quot;you are TOO stupid&quot;. Also, it's &quot;difference&quot; and not &quot;differance&quot;. I don't disagree with you fundamentally (though a little less of the histrionics would help with the effectiveness of your critique), but when you're calling someone else stupid, it always helps to get the spelling right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ehh, Jim: it&#8217;s &#8220;fuck you, TOO&#8221; and &#8220;you are TOO stupid&#8221;. Also, it&#8217;s &#8220;difference&#8221; and not &#8220;differance&#8221;. I don&#8217;t disagree with you fundamentally (though a little less of the histrionics would help with the effectiveness of your critique), but when you&#8217;re calling someone else stupid, it always helps to get the spelling right.
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		<title>by: jim young</title>
		<link>http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/06/05/fuck-gm/#comment-4536</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>fuck GM, I just watched the show Who killed the electric car. After watching this I can tell you that the big auto and oil industry are in bed with each other. The EV1 was an electric car that every one who leased it wanted, but GM said no, instead the joined with the bush adm, to fight California's mandate of 0 emissions. When they won and Cal. backed down, they pulled the EV1 off the market and said no one wanted it. Even though privat buyers had a waiting list and offered 2 million to buy the last 80 cars. GM said no and sent them to the crusher. Fuck GM. I sold my pos avao and bought a Toyota corolla. 
Next GM sold their 60% stake in a battery company that was building much imporved batterys for the EV1 to you gussed it Texaco Chevron. Fuck big oil and limbaugh and hannity, mouth pcs. for corporate america. We need a sea change in government, I say vote for Obama and if he does not hold to change 4 years from now vote him out and someone else in. Do you republican idiots really think that corporate america has your best interests at heart? If so fuck you to, you are to stupid to know the differance between good an evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fuck GM, I just watched the show Who killed the electric car. After watching this I can tell you that the big auto and oil industry are in bed with each other. The EV1 was an electric car that every one who leased it wanted, but GM said no, instead the joined with the bush adm, to fight California&#8217;s mandate of 0 emissions. When they won and Cal. backed down, they pulled the EV1 off the market and said no one wanted it. Even though privat buyers had a waiting list and offered 2 million to buy the last 80 cars. GM said no and sent them to the crusher. Fuck GM. I sold my pos avao and bought a Toyota corolla.<br />
Next GM sold their 60% stake in a battery company that was building much imporved batterys for the EV1 to you gussed it Texaco Chevron. Fuck big oil and limbaugh and hannity, mouth pcs. for corporate america. We need a sea change in government, I say vote for Obama and if he does not hold to change 4 years from now vote him out and someone else in. Do you republican idiots really think that corporate america has your best interests at heart? If so fuck you to, you are to stupid to know the differance between good an evil.
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		<title>by: Futzbutton</title>
		<link>http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/06/05/fuck-gm/#comment-4216</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;American GM Vice President (later Colonel) Graeme K. Howard was a committed Nazi, and expressed such views in his book, America and a New World Order. Adolf Hitler awarded GM boss James D. Mooney the Order of Merit of the Golden Eagle for his services to Nazi Germany. General Motors’ internal documents show a clear strategy to profit from their German military contracts even after Germany declared war against America.&quot;
-Wikipedia

Hey McNee - this doesn't sound patriotic to me.  Sounds quite Anti-American.  I say take your American hating, views elsewhere...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;American GM Vice President (later Colonel) Graeme K. Howard was a committed Nazi, and expressed such views in his book, America and a New World Order. Adolf Hitler awarded GM boss James D. Mooney the Order of Merit of the Golden Eagle for his services to Nazi Germany. General Motors’ internal documents show a clear strategy to profit from their German military contracts even after Germany declared war against America.&#8221;<br />
-Wikipedia</p>
<p>Hey McNee - this doesn&#8217;t sound patriotic to me.  Sounds quite Anti-American.  I say take your American hating, views elsewhere&#8230;
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		<title>by: Andy McNee</title>
		<link>http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/06/05/fuck-gm/#comment-4159</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>If your Anti-General Motors,then your Anti America.

All of you should be ashamed of your coward like opinions/comments.  It was The GENERAL who pumped out tanks/military vehicles in order to win the Worl War your country limped into ( cowards ). Support the company that employess 6 for each one GENERAL MOTORS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your Anti-General Motors,then your Anti America.</p>
<p>All of you should be ashamed of your coward like opinions/comments.  It was The GENERAL who pumped out tanks/military vehicles in order to win the Worl War your country limped into ( cowards ). Support the company that employess 6 for each one GENERAL MOTORS!
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		<title>by: mike</title>
		<link>http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/06/05/fuck-gm/#comment-2653</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;They marketed the hell out of SUVs&quot;

they also convinced legislators to introduce ridiculous tax breaks to push these things into the market...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They marketed the hell out of SUVs&#8221;</p>
<p>they also convinced legislators to introduce ridiculous tax breaks to push these things into the market&#8230;
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		<title>by: To Cap and Trade or Not To Cap and Trade &#124; hugeasscity</title>
		<link>http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/06/05/fuck-gm/#comment-2635</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] I&amp;#8217;m not ready to give up on Cap and Trade &amp;#8212; there are lots of smart people supporting it, and even if its overall effectiveness is debatable, at least it is a step in the right direction. But Dorsey&amp;#8217;s sentiments resonate with an intuition of mine that just keeps getting stronger over the years: We have entered an uncharted regime in which human activity is pushing the limits of the planet, and if we hope to thrive as a species, we must emancipate ourselves from the religion of the free market. (I alluded to this here.) Free market economics cultivates competition at the expense cooperation, and this competitive attitude permeates everything we do, ranging from how we treat our neighbors to how we treat the planet. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I&#8217;m not ready to give up on Cap and Trade &#8212; there are lots of smart people supporting it, and even if its overall effectiveness is debatable, at least it is a step in the right direction. But Dorsey&#8217;s sentiments resonate with an intuition of mine that just keeps getting stronger over the years: We have entered an uncharted regime in which human activity is pushing the limits of the planet, and if we hope to thrive as a species, we must emancipate ourselves from the religion of the free market. (I alluded to this here.) Free market economics cultivates competition at the expense cooperation, and this competitive attitude permeates everything we do, ranging from how we treat our neighbors to how we treat the planet. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: NBeacon Jon</title>
		<link>http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/06/05/fuck-gm/#comment-2592</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You're right, I use 'standard of living' here in a most consumerist vein.  Because we are all consumers of this economy in one fashion or another, and I can't argue with you if one advance is more worthy than another. 

I understand that you want fellow readers to dig a little deeper, and I'm for it.  Trying to marry concepts of marketplace coupled with affordability/convienience/consumer desires with, pardon the expression, 'squishy' concepts of social capital and measuring human moral values, is a difficult exercise.  Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a cleaner environment, and thanks in part to this site, I have a keener eye for  sustainable design of structures.  I get nervous when we talk of imposing wills by dictat.

Side note:  my biggest complaint of Detroit; they've got, what over 100 years worth of design into the internal
combustion engine, and still we have to fill up every 300 miles?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, I use &#8217;standard of living&#8217; here in a most consumerist vein.  Because we are all consumers of this economy in one fashion or another, and I can&#8217;t argue with you if one advance is more worthy than another. </p>
<p>I understand that you want fellow readers to dig a little deeper, and I&#8217;m for it.  Trying to marry concepts of marketplace coupled with affordability/convienience/consumer desires with, pardon the expression, &#8217;squishy&#8217; concepts of social capital and measuring human moral values, is a difficult exercise.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;m all for a cleaner environment, and thanks in part to this site, I have a keener eye for  sustainable design of structures.  I get nervous when we talk of imposing wills by dictat.</p>
<p>Side note:  my biggest complaint of Detroit; they&#8217;ve got, what over 100 years worth of design into the internal<br />
combustion engine, and still we have to fill up every 300 miles?
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