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	<title>Comments on: Highrise in Madison Park</title>
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	<description>Efficiency is the straightest path to hell.*</description>
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		<title>by: serial catowner</title>
		<link>http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/06/24/highrise-in-madison-park/#comment-3224</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It's interesting that for 39 years people have been living in that building, quietly enjoying what must have seemed to them perfect lives.  I'm guessing nobody ever had to advertise to fill a vacancy there.

Although the tower-on-parkland concept has been thoroughly &quot;discredited&quot; in a variety of ways, it's hard to imagine that, if the land was dedicated and maintained as a public park with shoreline access, there would be much complaining.  (I know, I know, there would be &lt;i&gt;bickering&lt;/i&gt;, but people in general seem satisfied with Seattle's shoreline parklands.)

With density, there comes a point where you need to increase height to keep space free at the base.  If people like to swim in the lake, row and sail, or walk along the shore, that space can be preserved by putting people in taller buildings.

Alternately, we can all stay inside watching video games, or garden in clay pots in a postage stamp backyard.  These also appear to be attractive options in Seattle's Century 21.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting that for 39 years people have been living in that building, quietly enjoying what must have seemed to them perfect lives.  I&#8217;m guessing nobody ever had to advertise to fill a vacancy there.</p>
<p>Although the tower-on-parkland concept has been thoroughly &#8220;discredited&#8221; in a variety of ways, it&#8217;s hard to imagine that, if the land was dedicated and maintained as a public park with shoreline access, there would be much complaining.  (I know, I know, there would be <i>bickering</i>, but people in general seem satisfied with Seattle&#8217;s shoreline parklands.)</p>
<p>With density, there comes a point where you need to increase height to keep space free at the base.  If people like to swim in the lake, row and sail, or walk along the shore, that space can be preserved by putting people in taller buildings.</p>
<p>Alternately, we can all stay inside watching video games, or garden in clay pots in a postage stamp backyard.  These also appear to be attractive options in Seattle&#8217;s Century 21.
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		<title>by: smuglife</title>
		<link>http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/06/24/highrise-in-madison-park/#comment-3207</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Might have something to do with the lake on the other side? the fact that the rest of the neighborhood is 3 stories max and most built out to 2?

I hear what you're saying, not all towers bad but what makes the scale work here is the inequity between the development potential this site realized and the development potential the rest of the neighborhood never reached.  This inequity is made permanent by the Shoreline Management Act put in place in 1972, because of buildings like this....so yeah, it works but at a pretty massive price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might have something to do with the lake on the other side? the fact that the rest of the neighborhood is 3 stories max and most built out to 2?</p>
<p>I hear what you&#8217;re saying, not all towers bad but what makes the scale work here is the inequity between the development potential this site realized and the development potential the rest of the neighborhood never reached.  This inequity is made permanent by the Shoreline Management Act put in place in 1972, because of buildings like this&#8230;.so yeah, it works but at a pretty massive price.
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